Social Security Matters by Rusty Gloor, National Social Security Advisor at the AMAC Foundation, the non-profit arm of the Association of Mature American Citizens
Dear Rusty: We have hosted international college students for years, all of whom needed to apply for a Social Security Number upon arrival in the United States. Would these students be entitled to some Social Security funds at some point? Some have worked as paid graduate assistants, but others have not worked while going to school. Signed: Wondering
Dear Wondering: In order to collect Social Security benefits later in life, the students you host would need to have at least 40 “quarters” of credit working and earning in the U.S. and contributing to U.S. Social Security from their “substantial” U.S. earnings. Forty is the minimum number of credits for anyone to claim Social Security retirement benefits. Foreign students who earn only some “quarters” of U.S. Social Security credit (minimum of 6) may, later in life, be able to collect U.S. benefits depending on their country of citizenship/residence. The U.S. has bilateral “totalization” agreements regarding Social Security eligibility with most of its allies and, in some cases, a foreign citizen can “totalize” their Social Security credits from both countries to become eligible for U.S. benefits. Eligibility rules, however, vary somewhat by country, and Social Security payments cannot be made to certain countries (e.g., Cuba and North Korea). Payments to those living in countries with which the U.S. has no bilateral Social Security agreement may also be restricted.
In any case, U.S. Social Security benefits would not be available to any of these students until they are at least 62 years old, and then only if they had worked and earned sufficient U.S. credits (40) to be independently eligible for U.S. benefits on their own U.S. earnings record, or they later became eligible for U.S. benefits because they worked some in the U.S. and were eligible for benefits under a “totalization” agreement between the U.S. and their home country. In any case, any U.S. Social Security benefits earned under a totalization agreement would be based only on their actual U.S. earnings (and not earnings in their home country) and, thus, would likely be very small.
I assume that most international students you host are only in the U.S. for a short time, perhaps one year. The maximum Social Security credits that can be earned each year is four, so it’s highly doubtful that the students you host for such a short time would later become eligible for U.S. Social Security benefits, unless they extend their U.S. presence and continue to work and earn in the United States long enough to later become eligible for U.S. benefits.
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Makes no sense that we would even consider agreements with other countries.
Ms. Jean, I am sure you are from the privileged race and feel somewhat betrayed? Think about us single parents of color that have supported the local Democratic Party and make every single meeting of the Underground Progressive Party that helps get out the vote for our closet progressive candidates for both boards school and commissioners and only get 1% of what we are promised? Yea, we got the every four years revaluation to support the new progressive social payents that are only talked about in our UPP meetings and yes we got our new school board chairwoman that is a loyal NCAE supporter by the promised cross over vote of Terry Tippett we worked hard to get elected. Ms. Jean that is where the promise’s kept stops at for us so dont feel bad. Us needy parents of students are still waiting for our promised $1725.00 payment that our Wake County neighbor families are receiving from a progressive school board with a backbone. When we had more progressive votes on our school board it was all ways wait and let us lock up this board member, then we will vote the program in! We want ours too Ms, Jean!!!
Is it always about race? Quit supporting the Democratic Party and you might see things get better. They are the curse of this country and some people just don’t want to believe it.
We want ours too here in JOCO!
https://www.wral.com/do-the-right-thing-wake-county-grandparents-demand-at-least-1-725-for-school-transportation-reimbursement/20735243/